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THREE LANGUAGES, TWO COALITIONS, ONE VOTE.
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Ciao!
You're listening to "Il voto nello stivale". "The vote in the boot".

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I'm Alberto Spatola, and this podcast is about navigating the coming Italian elections.
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Today we will find out why the primary political leaders started the electoral campaign by speaking in French, English and Spanish.
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But first, we need to go back to the 90s.
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Italy opened the decades by hosting the Football World Cup.
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A hopeful note embodied by the song of that event: "Notti magiche", "magic nights".
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Notti magiche - Un'estate italiana
Notti magiche - Un'estate italiana
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Still, the country went through a dark, transforming time just after a few years.
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For Italian politics, the first years of the 90s were a long night, not that magic.
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Corruption, killings and public anger were the norms.
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During that long night, Italian politics found the strength to reform itself, at least apparently.
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And so, with dawn started the so-called "II Republic".
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No change of the Constitution happened, but a radical transformation of the electoral laws from municipalities to the Parliament.
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Italian politics became a wild mess; nowadays, it is even more.
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Still, a common theme of the electoral laws in Italy is that we have something no other functioning democracies have: pre-election coalitions.
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Parties have to claim, before the elections, with which allies they would like to form a majority
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and the electoral system rewards the creation of these pre-election coalitions.
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With this in mind, let's go back to the present.
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We are in the summer of 2022, and I introduce to you Giorgia Meloni, leader of the right-wing coalition,
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Io sono Giorgia - Book
Io sono Giorgia - Book
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a coalition made up of three lists and seven parties.
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An alliance refers to three European political families
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(Identity and Democracy, Conservatives and Reformists, and the European People's Party).
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Then, there is Enrico Letta, leader of the centre-left,
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2013 Letta PM and Napolitano President of the Republic
2013 Letta PM and Napolitano President of the Republic
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a coalition of four lists and thirteen parties.
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An alliance refers to four European political families 
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(Socialists and Democrats, Renew Europe - Liberals, Greens, and the Left).
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Yes, it is complex. Welcome to Italy.
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That's a vote in the boot.
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To make it easier for me, these two leaders decided to address the foreign audience in a trilingual video (French, English and Spanish).
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Giorgia Meloni started and Enrico Letta followed.
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The leader of the right defined herself before others started to do so.
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The risk for Meloni was the foreign press would frame her as a danger, focusing more on her past political affiliation and less on the novelty of her candidacy.
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Meloni on French TV in 1996
Meloni on French TV in 1996
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The risk was that the entire world would start to convince enough Italians that they were electing a dangerous post-fascist politician.
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So, Meloni said three crucial things:
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Meloni's trilingual video
Meloni's trilingual video
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1. The Italian right has left fascism in the past, and she condemns the suppression of democracy and the anti-Jews laws;
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Meloni condemning anti Jews laws
Meloni condemning anti Jews laws
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2. Meloni condemns Nazism and Communism, underling how the left today struggles to distance itself from the latter.
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3. Meloni is from a few years the leader of the European Conservatives and Reformists,
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so her models are the Tories in the UK and the Republicans in the US;
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in short, she is an "Atlanticist".
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There is a lot to unpack.
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Letting fascism in the past is not a condemnation, as many commentators in Italy said;
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it simply means that she might come from there, but for shaping society, she will look elsewhere than Italy during the 30s of last century.
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Moreover, Mussolini, in 1938, while announcing in Trieste the "Racial laws", didn't intend to target only Jews.
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Mussolini announcing the Racial laws in Trieste 1938
Mussolini announcing the Racial laws in Trieste 1938
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He linked the Racial laws to the building of the Empire (i.e. Colonies),
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creating a strict racial hierarchy.
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And he said that "the Jews issue" was just an aspect of the racial question.
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Meloni cherry-picking one element of the "Racial laws" and calling them "anti-Jews laws"
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doesn't only misrepresent the past but indicates her idea of the future.
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She didn't distance herself from her fascist past.
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And don't be fooled by the fact that she condemned Nazism.
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In Italy, and more broadly in southern Europe, we don't put Fascism and Nazism in the same basket.
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Among Italians, it is a common theme to differentiate Fascism from Nazism
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because it makes it easier to look at our history, to look at ourselves in the mirror.
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What is unbearable to think was running in our society, we link it to the alliance with Berlin,
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and so we have been able to sleep tight for decades.
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But still with a dirty conscience.
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Giorgia Meloni wants to sound like a solid democratic leader rebuking Nazism and Communism. 
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Still, the stress she put into underling the danger of Communism is a way to attack the opponents.
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In Italy, the intellectual argument that Nazi fascism is a criminal idea,
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instead Communism is a legitimate idea that gave birth to criminal dictatorships found particular ground.
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If this differentiation might sound like a little thing in Cambodia with Pol Pot, or in the former Soviet Union with Stalin, etc.,
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in Italy, history gave a chance to the largest Communist Party in the Western World, the PCI,
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to be a pillar of the democratic institutions.
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Many Italian Communist leaders, until 1981,
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were in bed with the Soviet Union and regarded Moscow as a model.
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Still, Communism in Italy has been a democratic force despite many downfalls.
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Ultimately, Giorgia Meloni gaslights her credentials,
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presenting the US Republican Party and the British Conservatives as her models.
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But again, she is not talking about the past but the future.
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She means the Republican Party of Donald Trump and the Conservative Party of Brexit.
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Reading between her French, English and Spanish,
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we can see a New Right with a deep political culture and the capacity to reinvent itself,
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staying the same while adapting to the new times.
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In front of this sophisticated and effective rebranding, Enrico Letta replied with a video in the same format,
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Letta's trilingual video
Letta's trilingual video
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and he stated dry facts, thinking that "the electoral campaign cannot cancel the facts".
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Letta "the electoral campaign cannot cancel the facts"
Letta "the electoral campaign cannot cancel the facts"
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That's a pure illusion.
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There are many words, in his video, about the Democratic Party's pro-European stance.
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Still, a pro-EU message about institutions, nation-states, veto power, and money.
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One day we will learn that Europe should be about the Europeans.
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In the meantime, it is hard to grasp which society the Italian centre-left wants to build.
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There is no identity and story in sight.
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Maybe in the following video.
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You've listened to "The vote in the boot".
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I'm Alberto Spatola.
Goodbye, and good luck!
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Transcription and sources at spatolaa.blogspot.com
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